Episode 18 ~ Hugh Keir, the power of group expeditions

In episode 18, I talk to Hugh Keir, a former Parachute regiment sniper, host of the H-Hour podcast and organiser of cool group expeditions that bring people together.

We discuss the importance of community and how group expeditions can widen our personal and professional networks, making the stresses of life more manageable, what ‘Zillennials’ are, and how these things keep us sane when we pass 40.

Around a ton of laughs, there is genuine ideas on how to get out of a rut if you’ve found yourself in one through life pressures.

How to find him:

Web: https://charliecharlieone.com

X: https://twitter.com/HughKeir

Insta: https://www.instagram.com/hhourpodcast/

• Read the transcript here

  00:00:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Hi and welcome to the Tales of Adventure podcast. I'm Chris, your host. Every month I'll be interviewing. It's boring adventures about overcoming hardship, taking risk, and doing it differently. The podcast aims document the learning of the got these stand out individuals to where they are now. In episode 18, I talked to Hugh Keira, a former Parachute Regiment sniper.

  00:00:20 Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer

  Some NHL podcast and organise of group expeditions that really bring people together. We discussed the importance of Community and how group expeditions can widen our personal professional networks, making the stresses of life more manageable. What's venules are and how these things keep us sane when we pass 40.

  00:00:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Hugh, mate. It's good to chat again mate. It's literally been two years. How's, how's tricks? I'm I'm talking to.

  00:00:43 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You from London, I presume?

  00:00:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, London isn't the HMM at work. Working bright and breezy and nice to know when you get it done. Wandering through London at -4 this morning. But it's not like where you are. It's not as cold as.

  00:00:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Where you are, but still I'm still going.

  00:00:57 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I'm struggling.

  00:01:00 Speaker 3

  Well, I've, I've, I've.

  00:01:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Got big respect. I like the days of kind of travelling around London, feel like such a long, you know, bygone era. Now it's been like what, five or six years I think since I was in like a last, you know, an office job. But yeah, I do. I do. It's strange. I I kind of miss those days despite having now like tonnes of nature in Estonia. I do actually strangely miss.

  00:01:19 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  London, as crazy as that sounds.

  00:01:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Well, time in London than what I have. I I've I've been technically working in London for I don't know what, five years now, but to me it's still an unknown. It's like this is the tales of Adventure podcast right now. London to me there's an adventure in every corner for me and especially Welsh like.

  00:01:33 Speaker 3

  Did you?

  00:01:36 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:01:41 Speaker 3

  You know, it's like it's like.

  00:01:43 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Growing up for Wales is like the epicentre of horrible English people and.

  00:01:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Now it has the.

  00:01:47 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Title of anything with it's amazing place.

  00:01:50 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I've actually, you know, I've.

  00:01:50 Speaker 3

  Eventually.

  00:01:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Actually a with a A a valid an excuse from work with a part of a network and part of it work where we have to try and organise events for these things and make your orientation network. But I wanna like my knowledge of museums in London is shocking and I thought I've got a bit more free time on my hands. No I thought OK, let's get round and let go and visit all the museums.

  00:01:53

  Oh.

  00:02:02 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:02:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, let's start with the full ones because I'm really tight, right. Yeah. So start with the free ones. I've tied it to work. So every month in work for for this year, we're gonna go visit gonna take people, we're gonna wander and visit a free Museum in London each month. Every month. It's like yes, tales like with.

  00:02:16 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:02:27 Speaker 3

  On.

  00:02:27 Speaker 3

  My way.

  00:02:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  With my adventure. Yeah, there we.

  00:02:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Colleague.

  00:02:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  I was. I was thinking, like, literally and I well, I I was thinking six months ago I was I started doing the same for the terms of venture website. I was like I wanna go and document all places that I love going to so sort of for like the obvious ones like Royal Geographical Society but then like Maritime Museum and and as I as I was actually late.

  00:02:31 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In work time.

  00:02:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  London I've just never realised it as like a you.

  00:02:51 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And and most of the most of the great ones are free. You know, you've got the Imperial War Museum, National Art Museum, the Maritime Museum. You mentioned the Science Museum, the Natural History Museum. The can you tell? I've been looking at the list.

  00:02:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Know as a.

  00:02:55

  Yeah.

  00:03:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The tape tape, the tape, modern tape. Britain. Yeah. There's a there's the the Queen's House, which is a museum. It's called the queen. Hazy museum. There's loads of them. There's loads of them. Yeah, it's incredible. So I'm looking forward to it.

  00:03:14 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah.

  00:03:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Perfect. Well mate, it's great to have you on here, by the way, like it's it feels weird like me interviewing you for one because obviously.

  00:03:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You're you're the founder and the director of HR Hour, which is a a typical podcast, which it kind of explores, I guess.

  00:03:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  People who've got really interesting stories of don't really commonly get featured on podcasts and stuff. You have some you had some big names, you know, some from adventure and kind of others from like.

  00:03:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Kind of wider culture.

  00:03:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  This guy called Chris Shirley once.

  00:03:43 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Maybe. And he turned up. Let I remember. He turned up late.

  00:03:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  As well like.

  00:03:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  It's like, well, you spent half an hour again, does it?

  00:03:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I don't remember that, but thank.

  00:03:58 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You one of these. Yeah. Yeah, that's the. That's the high both floors. But anyway, so. So the reason why I wanted to kind of talk to you on the podcast specifically is because the last few years you've been running these cool motorbike and.

  00:03:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The other ones.

  00:04:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Our Rd trips around kind of Wales and the and the UK and stuff. And from my perspective seeing, seeing that that sense of community played out in such a.

  00:04:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Well, it's such a like a cool, accessible way cause it's not like you've got to have a certain apart from a car or a motorbike. It's not like you. There's like a big barrier to entry cause most people have obviously got those things.

  00:04:33 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  So yeah, I want to kind of ask more about it, like whether the idea come from it, like what was the the drivers for, for making this sort of thing?

  00:04:42 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, that's a good question. I think the the genesis for the idea of doing an annual, you call them the expert, call it a HR experts expedition, right. And I think the genesis for it came from my first year work in London when I was at the company right now, which is in Muscat now by Assam.

  00:04:52

  Yeah.

  00:05:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And the few guys I know who I'd met in the company, Paul goodness, you know, a good friend of both.

  00:05:00

  She had.

  00:05:06 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Of ours.

  00:05:07

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:05:07 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Being one of them threw in him and met a couple of others and their bikers.

  00:05:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And we it was a it was the 75th anniversary of Ireland that year and and and I.

  00:05:18 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Got a motorbike licence and we decided.

  00:05:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That we were going to bike out to autumn, spend the weekend in autumn, a bike back. Now in hindsight, that was a terrible idea because you spend the entire time drinking. It's like it's also horrific motorbike trip back anyway, but we did that and I loved it and we said I I said let's let's do this again next year. I'll begin next year, but it didn't happen cause the pandemic happened, right? But what?

  00:05:38 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I loved what I loved about it.

  00:05:41 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Was that?

  00:05:43 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  There was guys on that trip, there was a boatneck on there there, Ashley. I don't know if you've met Dell, but there was, I don't know. I mean, what a Dell? What a boatneck got to do with nothing. But he came along. I mean, loved it because it's something new, something different. And they were. There were people on that trip that not everyone knew. And I certainly didn't know. So it was like you had a trip to somewhere new or different.

  00:05:47 Speaker 3

  Yes, yeah, yeah.

  00:06:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or that you really get to go to.

  00:06:04 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  With different people, but.

  00:06:06 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You've all got the common goal of going and just having a good experience, as are good people, and then chilling out.

  00:06:11 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Coming back.

  00:06:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So that happened and it was.

  00:06:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  This is great. It was.

  00:06:14 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  A great trip and and then after the pandemic.

  00:06:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Really, I was looking for.

  00:06:22 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  More ways to get more from the the community that has sort of evolved around HR at the podcast because like there's an adventure like House of Hate, it's there's more to what people see that the brand all that thing does is it staple you know, HR produces podcasts but also is this community of people.

  00:06:42 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Which the the core of it is the patrons to everyone else in the discourse, and all this who, who interact with each other and see value in the in in talking to each other, cause the common interest in the podcast.

  00:06:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And how, yeah.

  00:06:53 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  How can I engage people more and meet more of them and meet new people and and help?

  00:06:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Listeners, viewers, members of the community get more from each other and just just for I don't know, improving life and just even just in a short in a short way like a a nice weekend away for example. And then on top of that is I love travelling as you obviously do.

  00:07:06 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:07:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I love China. I just. I've never really had a major.

  00:07:17 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Opportunity to do it regularly. Like, well, the place on my bucket list. I've not ticked off all the place on my bucket list. I would like to tick off. I've ticked.

  00:07:25 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Off hardly any now interesting.

  00:07:27 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:07:29 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Those places until the last few years, those those bucket list places, none of them were.

  00:07:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In the.

  00:07:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  UK and I was thinking of myself like few years ago. This UK's incredible place like like it's incredible place we're talking about London, The nation Wales, Brecon Beacons, North Wales, Snowdonia. And they're just the, you know, the the mansions region. Then you got all the coastal areas.

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  You.

  00:07:49 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The same with England. Same with Scotland, same in Ireland and.

  00:07:51 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I thought, yeah.

  00:07:53 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I wonder if anyone will be up for going on a trip somewhere in the UK with the selfish reason that I can go visit somewhere I want to.

  00:08:01 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Visit, but yeah, yeah.

  00:08:03 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Open to anyone. Come along. We are and have a little trip. And that that's what we started doing. And the first one we did was.

  00:08:09 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The first ex bed was.

  00:08:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The North Coast 500.

  00:08:14 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Scotland.

  00:08:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  But it actually turned into 800 miles.

  00:08:17 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  For me and one of the.

  00:08:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Related to Glasgow, it was. That's it. You know, stopping at a different place each night, camping and then.

  00:08:25 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:08:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That's that's what the genesis is. It's see new places, meet new people, have a nice experience, do something different than.

  00:08:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know for for relatively little cost for the benefit of, yeah, how often do people get to dinner these days?

  00:08:36 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:08:41 Speaker 3

  Yeah. No, I I was. I was.

  00:08:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Thinking I was thinking that myself, like outside of the military, there isn't really. You know, you don't really like kind of hang around with people that you want to hang around with all day, you know, obviously like you, you make friends with, like, work colleagues and stuff, but you don't necessarily share the same interests of, you know, wanting to go travel, wanting to explore places, you know, some some camping.

  00:09:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Some kind of, you know, like slightly more rougher, you know, kind of like ways of doing things, whereas obviously if you've got, if you got like a shared goal of let's go to Ireland, let's go to the do the North Coast 500. So if you've actually got like a A shared purpose to bring people together and then on that trip you then share ideas you share.

  00:09:20 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Kind of like context, I guess from your workplace or your your different regions and it's and you then come away with like having a like that goal of achieving something where that's riding the 500 and you know seeing what's it the the John W John West. That's a cheer for.

  00:09:36 Speaker 3

  The Yeah, the John Bridge and.

  00:09:40 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Johnny Frost, Johnny Frost, Johnny Frost. Johnny, Johnny.

  00:09:41 Speaker 3

  Staying here 24 sessions, that was, that was the first word that came to mind. I was like, it's a job less memorial, but just.

  00:09:52 Speaker 3

  Now I was like, no, that's a freaking cheater brand.

  00:09:53

  Yeah.

  00:09:57 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, baby, the the John Frost Memorial Bridge. I went over a few times actually. Cause I I want, you know, I want to.

  00:10:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Just.

  00:10:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Like just experience, you know? So I went over, like, kind of north to South and a.

  00:10:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Few.

  00:10:09 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Times just to just to do it. But yeah, but you know, it's cool because it's something. It's in our, in our cultural heritage.

  00:10:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Through, obviously a bridge too far. Obviously your your regimental history with the Parachute Regiment and it's. It's just. Yeah, I can totally see. What?

  00:10:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Having that kind of goal would do to bring together cause I you know, I was I think I was. I was down. Paul invited me to come in it as well. And I think that was probably post accident or I was away consulting or doing something so I can join that year but yeah. No I think I think.

  00:10:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's fantastic mate. And the other thing is that there's, I mean, just the Ireland trip as it is, is Genesis, you could call it the 1st.

  00:10:45 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Got to be wanted, but the there were two of the guys that came along on that. They weren't even military, they weren't, they were civilians.

  00:10:50 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:10:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know, and it's I think it's there's something, there's there's something about you can you can bring a bunch of strips. Well, you and I know this better than as ex military know this sort of yeah better than most I would say is that you can bring a bunch of strangers together and if you put them through common experiences.

  00:11:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  New experiences been as hard experiences or interesting experiences, right? It brings it together really close and and forms upon which may or.

  00:11:21 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  May.

  00:11:21 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Not be life long and that's what's.

  00:11:21 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:11:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  We're seeing with.

  00:11:24 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The the HR experts and it forms a bomb.

  00:11:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Of people who.

  00:11:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  See traditionally back, you know, back.

  00:11:30 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In the day you know you're bumped.

  00:11:31 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In.

  00:11:33 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Be.

  00:11:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  But people were geographically close to you for this reason. Travel was a very different thing back then. It wasn't that easy. There weren't planes or cars or even bicycles, right? But but so with what?

  00:11:36 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yes, yeah, yeah.

  00:11:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:11:44 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  The amount we.

  00:11:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Have now on these kind of things is.

  00:11:47 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You can for like I said, you can form bonds with like form bands of people from all over the world.

  00:11:51 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know Scotland.

  00:11:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  England, Ireland on these on the X beds on the on the TRIPS.

  00:11:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That we deal with from all over the world.

  00:11:57 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And all over the country, all.

  00:11:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Over the UK.

  00:11:59 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I.

  00:11:59 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Should say and I have no.

  00:12:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Doubt that when we go to, when we go overseas, which will be next year, there people from overseas, we form bonds with.

  00:12:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That you know that you're.

  00:12:06 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  There and and and and and. In those experiences you.

  00:12:06

  Yeah.

  00:12:10 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You, not just.

  00:12:10 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Learn about where you are and what you see in. You'll learn about the culture of the other people who are on.

  00:12:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The trip with you.

  00:12:16 Speaker 3

  Yes, great.

  00:12:16 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Even if it's just.

  00:12:17 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The Wales, England.

  00:12:18 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Thing like someone in brought in a council estate into the last. The last expert last year, one of the guys walked up.

  00:12:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  He's a Ferrari owner, very different to who I.

  00:12:29 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Am very different. It's like.

  00:12:30 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  All the bikes, it was a camper van and it was like a Vauxhall Corsa on it. And then Don turned up in his brand new Ferrari, like which which, funny enough, that was an amazing thing to see him pulling onto a campsite. A tempo like campsite.

  00:12:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  On the last night.

  00:12:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know, you, you you getting to know about other people.

  00:12:49 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And that's critical. That's critical for, you know, just moving forward in a positive way of life and.

  00:12:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yes.

  00:12:54 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And yeah, no, 100% agree like you you you just reminded me like I'm still in touch with the that. So the the tent that we had on the mouth and the tables back in 2019.

  00:13:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And I'm still in touch with them, like five years later. We've got, like we said, a WhatsApp group for sharing photos and we we still chatted actually to this day, one of one of the Members, Johnny, he's an Irish.

  00:13:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's amazing.

  00:13:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Guy.

  00:13:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And have been around all the countries in the world at that point, you know, and was now taking off kind of other things because he was, you know, did a lot of travelling during his gap years and.

  00:13:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Was now ticking off, like, you know, the mouth and their stables. And he and he kept on going further. So he did all the all the, the Seven Mountains, seven highest summits in the world. You know, just as Nims, Nims as.

  00:13:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And he's in both polls now, and he, you know, and it's like, it's just keeps on going and he's he's, you know, always set like an example for the rest of us. And but something to talk about cause like, how Johnny's Johnny is now on top of Everest as he was, you know kind of May last year and then we're following Johnny and you know the South Pole right now has.

  00:13:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Just done like a a marathon and Antarctica. And I was like.

  00:13:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  It was that, you know.

  00:13:53 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  That was a pure chance that we had our tent together got on so well, you know, we we formed such a bond over 7 days of like running in the desert as he, you know as he as he.

  00:14:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You like.

  00:14:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  As you do, yeah. Seven days. Seven days went as you do. Yeah, they did not, mate. I did not do that.

  00:14:06 Speaker 3

  Can you can you?

  00:14:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  To be fair, like we could do that anymore. Now, given the given by mountain exploits of the what like the past. But then you know, as as like it's how how do you bottle that as like an add like an adult with. Obviously we're both kind of the same, the same generation or both millennials.

  00:14:31 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  I'm like how how do you bottle that when it comes to, you know, work and family and other responsibility, but still finding that way to kind?

  00:14:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Get that, keep that community spirit alive, you know, and I think this is this ticks that box.

  00:14:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  We're not millennials.

  00:14:47 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  No. With zinnias with xennials we hear this too.

  00:14:52 Speaker 3

  That is that the people of the the.

  00:14:53 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Back end of millennialism.

  00:14:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  No zeals xennials are people who grew up. They're either ascents, was and.

  00:15:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Look and digital didn't come around until they were adults. So like, you know, we we were, we were, you know, when we were growing up, our Internet access was dial up right through the phone. Like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's actual terms. Anyway. It's like analogue, analogue childhood, adolescence and then and then digital adults.

  00:15:15 Speaker 3

  Invented.

  00:15:18 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Like. Yeah, it's like, yeah.

  00:15:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  This.

  00:15:21

  Yeah.

  00:15:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  May I ask if anyone I can use that in the future? But I'm gonna like reference it to you. That's the press on event Z deals. That's it. Makes sense. Cause obviously we're millennials next generation is is Gen Z or Gen Z as as we say in the UK so like I can see where the terms annuals come from because it's with that transfer phase because it's too.

  00:15:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's X. It's with an X. It's with an X.

  00:15:42 Speaker 3

  Right.

  00:15:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Actually, sure it's the next.

  00:15:48 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Maybe I dreamt I was talking, which I dreamt.

  00:15:50 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It and now.

  00:15:51 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  If I was.

  00:15:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Over then, no, but it it makes it makes sense because obviously the the generations have got those those names and that you that transition period between the two actually would make sense to mix up the 2 words and to.

  00:16:03 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Something new.

  00:16:04 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I'm the I'm the two very different generations. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  00:16:09

  Yeah.

  00:16:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That's a whole different conversation.

  00:16:17 Speaker 3

  Well, well, well it.

  00:16:18 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Does get on to come the next question and like kind of what do you what can you see the the road trips doing in the future? What's the next step is is it gonna stay UK? Is it gonna go to?

  00:16:28 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Kind of, I guess, like kind of my more Europe PM places. Is it growing in size?

  00:16:33 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah. OK. Yeah. So it won't stay UK. There's two, there's two aspirations with it. It's it's one is to grow and make it more accessible and get more people on them, right. There's a problem with that though, as you know, as as being an A seasoned events organiser for sure, you know.

  00:16:48 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Think with your certain size or put certain things in place and it becomes an organised event and then that is a whole different kettle of fish, right? And then trying.

  00:16:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:16:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  To avoid that.

  00:16:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So we wanna make it more accessible. I'll talk about are we doing that shortly but.

  00:16:59 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  UK wise we kind of we kind of done everything UK almost so we we did the North Coast 500 we went we went the year before last we we did we went all around Wales, Umm and then last year we did the South Coast of the Jurassic Coast. Ohh a big up a large portion of it anyway and and we did yeah Cornwall.

  00:17:15 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Unless.

  00:17:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In the South West and.

  00:17:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  All that, and then this year, we're doing the Lake District.

  00:17:25 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Uhm.

  00:17:25

  Yes.

  00:17:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Islands on the bucket list, and that may well be next year, but also mainland Europe. There's gonna be a small trip to Ireland this year. We're gonna bike out, bike back only cause I stopped drinking. So I'm like I can bike out. Yeah.

  00:17:42 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And all the biking.

  00:17:43 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Back.

  00:17:47 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And then.

  00:17:49 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Europe has been on the cards for a while, but what we don't want, but we want to, we're trying. I'm trying to get more buying and sort of emotional commitment from a lot of people into just into just the experts, so that when we do decide to do a mainland European bike trip worship reform, we get at least sort of.

  00:18:08 Speaker 3

  Did it.

  00:18:09 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  8910 you know, because it comes with more cost, it comes more commitment. It's not gonna be a four day.

  00:18:11 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:18:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Thing which is.

  00:18:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  What they usually are.

  00:18:16 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  At the moment, and so you know that that's own problems but so. So that's something you like. Where we're gonna go side. But in terms of.

  00:18:17 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:18:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Making it more.

  00:18:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Accessible all our tricks so far have.

  00:18:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Been normally early June.

  00:18:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Now, what happened? What happened last year or the year before last? Actually my my, my eldest daughter started coming when she was she just started. Now her boyfriend had just started driving so she was just 16 and she went on the trip with her and he was driving. And then last year so it's.

  00:18:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Nice to have.

  00:18:44 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  A young person, right?

  00:18:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And a couple of young people and they brought their some team friends with them. They were known as The Inbetweeners and.

  00:18:51 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  They were at all.

  00:18:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Intensive factors they were to all intensive was Inbetweeners, you know, we.

  00:18:56 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Were hearing that right, we got motorbikes, cars.

  00:18:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Adults. And then you got three cars turned up with the with the six in Betweeners and 111 of which is my daughter and two of the cars I've got black boxes fitted. So the car over 60 miles an hour. God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Which which isn't the problem cause the way the TRIPS work is the bikes. You know, each leg, the bikes head off and then the cars follow behind. What? What happened on?

  00:19:11

  What?

  00:19:17 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:19:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  On the first time that happened, we had the bikes headed off.

  00:19:22 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Then the cars and then the other black box hit the car behind that. We're like a volunteer adult in an adult car staying with them.

  00:19:32 Speaker 3

  Didn't they said? Yeah.

  00:19:33 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, yeah, but last year.

  00:19:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  When we did the South with the Jurassic Coast, we had with a, so there was a young boy with us about 10 years old with us for the entire trip, and he came with his parents and he was, that was that had his such a different dynamic to it, right? Cause a bunch of adults and most of us knew each other on the last trip.

  00:19:49

  Yeah.

  00:19:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Most of us, a couple.

  00:19:53 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Of new faces.

  00:19:53

  Yeah.

  00:19:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  There was and it was about 18 of US 18/19. It was at peak because some people didn't come for the whole thing. Yeah. So when you had a child in, people behave differently. They positively, you know, if they're around the kid and they're interacting with the kid and and and it just brings a different side of people.

  00:20:01

  Yeah.

  00:20:07 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:20:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And that also creates an additional sort of channel and angle for bonding with each other.

  00:20:21 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:20:21 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know, and it also gives the parents the rest because they can chill out, right? Because where's Milo? The last neighbours, although nickname is smile because he's always smiling. So smiling is where's where's smiling? Down the beach with such and such and such and such. And. And. And he's down there with with two others. And the parents are chilling out in the in the tent and everyone. It's just it was so it was just.

  00:20:35 Speaker 3

  Here.

  00:20:41 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Roll call another on another and then on the last night we did.

  00:20:45 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  A guy who would be honest for the entire trip, the next military guy or serving military guy. Actually, his wife can overnight with his two kids and they were like six or seven years old, two boys and he.

  00:20:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Was.

  00:20:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Like just just just quality.

  00:20:57

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:20:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And then we sat around the campfire and the kids were talking. We were doing.

  00:21:01 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Like Ice Breakers and all that kind of thing.

  00:21:04 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So so this year, instead of it being early June, which is not on the holidays this year in terms of accessibility, we're doing it in August. It's the first weekend in August. So it's it's the holiday, it's, it's probably easier for people to get time off work maybe and it's definitely encourages it's more accessible for families.

  00:21:12 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:21:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So come bring your.

  00:21:21 Speaker 3

  Yes. Yeah.

  00:21:21 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Kids, even if it's only one night, come.

  00:21:22 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Along, bring him along and just and.

  00:21:24 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Do something different. So.

  00:21:25 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And hang out.

  00:21:26 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  With people, make some, make some new friends.

  00:21:28 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Hang out with because I guess that's probably. That's probably one of the hardest things I've I've not got children. Probably the hardest things I I I imagine is is making kind of having having friends that you know have got similar interests but not from you know like schools or or kind of like just you know a mutual bond just because you both got children where it's actually a mutual bond because you got children.

  00:21:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And you've got similar interests as well. I guess that probably makes makes a friendship, actually.

  00:21:53 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  More the interesting and valuable to both sides, isn't it because they're they're doing it from a a shared experience and then?

  00:22:01 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, that's that's that's fantastic. That's fascinating. It's it's such a good, I guess it's it's a really good byproduct of something that probably wasn't planned from the start as in, yeah, what probably started off is is a a group of mates once ago actually be more like a a social a social kind of group travelling around doesn't.

  00:22:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, exactly. And it's so and when you combine?

  00:22:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The combined knowledge of the group in any given year when we do it, it's.

  00:22:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Just incredible I.

  00:22:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Know nothing about the South Coast. I know nothing about Cornwall. We learn that trick. I learned so much. I learned so much from different.

  00:22:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  People, they either lived there.

  00:22:35 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or been based there or just knew stuff about it and you you just you.

  00:22:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Learn some again.

  00:22:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  About the UK and you think, well, that's like the kids that come along, it's like it's the same thing.

  00:22:43 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And and just going back to the kids, in fact, back to the.

  00:22:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  As well, you know you're just experiencing these different personalities and there's a lot of strong personalities on it, stronger in a positive way, stronger like in a more way. You know it's it's.

  00:22:53

  Yes.

  00:22:56 Speaker 3

  Yeah, it doesn't seem.

  00:22:57 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In Wales, Wales, you know there was, there was three of us on that.

  00:22:57 Speaker 3

  It's.

  00:23:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Were Welsh and.

  00:23:01 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Just the other people on it learn so much. You go to, you go to St Davids, you go to you know you, you go to North Wales.

  00:23:07 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You got a Harlock or you you know, you passing by some random cafe or random mountain like.

  00:23:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Alright, this is.

  00:23:16 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  What we're trying to do on the trips is we.

  00:23:17 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Keep the legs really short so.

  00:23:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Your aim for this trip ran for 120 miles in a day. One day, it doesn't sound like a lot.

  00:23:24 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:23:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It it can be quite a lot if it takes a while so, but a leg is like 45 minutes. You drive on 45 minutes an hour Max, then you're stopping off and you stop off at landmark.

  00:23:29 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:23:35 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know, it's like, OK, you see what? What's all this about? And again, learning something about it, the knowledge is Laurie is great and it's that it's the conversation points and talking points and throughout the weekend, you know, you sort of realise that every single person that brings value to something in some way, shape or form, just in generally seen them, everyone brings value to something. Well, that's a car breaking down. Right. OK.

  00:23:50 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Trips.

  00:23:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The tool for that, you know.

  00:23:57 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or it's the The Inbetweeners talking about union student.

  00:24:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Life and all the.

  00:24:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Rest of it, right. Yeah, all.

  00:24:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Essex life. Yeah, cause all from epicness.

  00:24:03 Speaker 3

  Take tokens.

  00:24:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know I'll never so.

  00:24:08

  I.

  00:24:09 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Was. I was thinking that so I I rode A motorbike from UK to Estonia last year. Well, two years it. It was it was cool. It was like 1000 miles. Two ferries from obviously from Essex to Amster, not Amsterdam. Sorry. Netherlands. And then.

  00:24:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Oh, did you? What was that like?

  00:24:28 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Appeal to Lithuania to Lisa.

  00:24:30 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So Harish Harish, Yahoo Holland.

  00:24:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yes. Yeah, that one. Yeah. And then the the keel like Northern Germany to Lithuania.

  00:24:36 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  What was the bike?

  00:24:37 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  What you on a Tener 8 and the 1086 hundred? OK, yeah, so it was. But my my knowledge of kind.

  00:24:44 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Of of you know.

  00:24:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Motorbikes and and motor vehicles isn't that good, so I was kind of.

  00:24:48 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Worried the entire.

  00:24:49 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Time like ship.

  00:24:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  What's the immobiliser kicks in? What if I have to punch it? Have this you know and I was kind of I was sleep with it, you know, being like, what am I gonna do if I, you know, I've? I've read a read up on the forum on the Internet. You know, do this if you're you know electrics like concat or something like that I was like.

  00:25:06 Speaker 3

  But you know.

  00:25:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  I went with it anyway and and obviously he was fine and 10 arrays are kind of built out of like washing lines and sturdy as hell so you know nothing went wrong. Really dependable. But I was thinking it would be so much more enjoyable if I did it as a group or with more people rather than just that lone trip, you know, across the Europe because you you don't you see you see a lot of interesting things, but you got no one really to share it with.

  00:25:28 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You know, and it's like it's it's like a a long experience and.

  00:25:32 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You know, I think it would have been far better if it was. It was something like this when I was doing it. So I'm like, OK, let's, I want to do more, more kind of group activities like rather than just soul trips, soul trips.

  00:25:36 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah.

  00:25:41 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, there's just, there's there's such a lot of. Yeah. When you. Especially when you're somewhere different each evening. Like, I love that aspect. We're not doing that this year. But I sort of did what I want.

  00:25:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  To do that this year.

  00:25:56 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  We we we in a different place each evening or also with that group of people like you mentioned.

  00:26:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Earlier about the risk of.

  00:26:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Not risk but.

  00:26:04 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I want a bad egg. I've got a bad egg in the trip. Like that is always always mitigated. If there's loads of external, like inspiration and experience is different because it sort of yeah, focuses on the outside as opposed to people talking. Sort of if you know what I mean and and and that kind of trip was amazing. I totally get that would totally be of that.

  00:26:07 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:26:18

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

  00:26:22 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Kind of trip 100%.

  00:26:24 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  What we're doing this year like is it, which is gonna be a different than what we normally do. Normally each night we stay at a different place because we we're we're doing a route from A to B over the four days. Umm, and we, you know we bought pre book campsites based.

  00:26:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:26:40 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Some. Sometimes some people decide to stay hotel for one or two nights, like if they want, and that was rarely, but they do it.

  00:26:45 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or people who?

  00:26:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  For physical reasons, can't camp like or can't say about it. But uh, so this year we're seeing in one spot we've basically we've got a whole bunkhouse which sleeps 25 people.

  00:26:50 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:27:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In the lake to ourselves kitchen, all that. So where is normal in the evening you'd be able to, you know, once your social battery.

  00:27:07

  Right.

  00:27:09 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Would run out right?

  00:27:10 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Then evil to go. I'm off the bed and.

  00:27:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Go.

  00:27:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, the phone thing or whatever, 16 music or do whatever else you do in your 10 and you can get away from it. Now, this time the bunkers not number because it's gonna be 25 people, the bunkers to get there. But what it does do is it gives the opportunity for people if.

  00:27:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Now it's really not the streets anyway. Talk.

  00:27:17 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  To me on.

  00:27:27

  There.

  00:27:31 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  They wanna have 1/2 day out travelling or not.

  00:27:33 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  About one day they can just stay at the bunkhouse.

  00:27:35 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  But it does mean that there was a comeback and there was probably living with each other for four nights and.

  00:27:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That again you will.

  00:27:41 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Know this when anyone open next military that can present problems. There may be people will be friends for the last three years of these experts that are no longer friends after this like people, people not not replacing the toilet.

  00:27:57 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Leave the kitchen. Yes, you.

  00:27:58 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:27:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or something like that. You have to.

  00:28:01 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Put some ground rules in actually, yeah.

  00:28:03 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, hopefully that's not me. That's outcast.

  00:28:09 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Think about the small ones. Think about the farters.

  00:28:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, that's that's basically, but that's me, that's me. And it's interestingly, you kind of reminded me of the mums doing trips I've done where we've gone and done like, say Mont Blanc or or or math or things like that where you you end up, you hire like a guest house and everyone, everyone stays there and you've got like mixed abilities of climbers, you know, people who are like real seasoned.

  00:28:34 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Spirit.

  00:28:34 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  To you know, people like myself who are beginners or kind of like middle, you know, new to the sport, but what you get is like there's almost like the evenings where after you've come back from the mountain you, you know, you'll you'll take in turns to make dinner. You would obviously sort for your kid and, you know, just kind of like chat about, you know, methods and and tactics and ways of doing it.

  00:28:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And it it sounds to me like having that kind of base camp approach on this sorts of trips could be really good cause then you can you can just pick and choose like a like a tough pass of like right and do this day go out with you know the motorbikes or?

  00:29:07 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  This day out and do.

  00:29:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  The the something else? Yeah, I mean that. That's that's really cool. Like it's.

  00:29:12 Speaker 3

  And I know it.

  00:29:13 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Won't be easy to organise things like that cause the the costs of hiring a bunkhouse, the commitment from people who you know who who'll be like, yes, I'm coming. Yes, I'm coming in last minute. Be like no. So I'm something to.

  00:29:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Come.

  00:29:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Up is is kind of stressful, isn't it?

  00:29:25

  Yeah.

  00:29:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, I mean, the bunker's coming in about on at the same cost as what the camping would be normally to be honest. But I mean, where would?

  00:29:33 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It be, yeah, the biggest.

  00:29:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The when we the biggest sort of divergent in.

  00:29:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  What people want to do in each day, if there is, if there is, if they have, if they're on the rare occasions as their diversions, it comes between, it's like generational, it's the, it's The Inbetweeners, merely and and it's like they what they will normally end up doing if they're gonna change the plan is they will. They will just like two or three, two or 3:00 in the afternoon.

  00:30:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And we had that sort of final stop where we got, we got sort another two legs to go and we're gonna get in at 5.

  00:30:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  O'clock they sometimes will peel off early. We're gonna head straight. We're gonna go straight. I'm gonna go straight. Direct Line to the to the camps that we'll see there. All we'll do are Detroit. Something else that they wanna go and see. That wasn't on the plan. And let's not a drama. It's like.

  00:30:14 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:30:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know it's it's.

  00:30:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  When everyone else is off.

  00:30:25 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  OK, with the yeah, the base cap approach, I'm, I'm, I'm I'm. I'm thinking more now but I'm sort of talking to you on that on this single you know staying in the same place with four days in, in August, I'm sort of brought more into it now, but I didn't want.

  00:30:38 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Do it but now, but we're into it, yeah.

  00:30:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah, I think especially cause like people could bring like a different thing to get it. So those that people wanna sit out of their, you know, for a day or so because like you like you get on those on those sorts of trips. There'll be days where you get up and you're like, I don't really feel like driving all day.

  00:30:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Or, you know, riding all day. Yeah, it's not just.

  00:30:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That either it's you get up in the morning.

  00:30:58 Speaker 3

  I guess you can.

  00:31:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You gotta pack it anyway. You gotta pack it. Get away.

  00:31:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:31:03 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And I mean you, when you get in, you gotta pack your stuff away. You know when when they're bunker. And that's not people just do it because you know that's that's what we do. We do it. We just get on with it. No one ever complain. Yeah, that's what you do.

  00:31:05

  Right.

  00:31:14 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  But the bank, I mean, just think of the Bankers board games in the evening, maybe a poker night. You know, people are always there because you it starts on as early as you've got packs of down. You can leave your sleeping bag out.

  00:31:20 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:31:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Over if you do very whatever. Yeah. Yeah.

  00:31:29 Speaker 3

  So.

  00:31:30 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  All the creature comforts. Yeah, that's a generation of difference as well. The the packing ability of the younger generation and disappointingly, my own daughter.

  00:31:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Oh my God. It breaks me. It breaks me when she opens the book with that car and just duvets fall out. Pillows fall out everything. There's nothing packed, nothing packed lying there like a de SAC before the day's worth to get there. And what I what I I guess that.

  00:31:56 Speaker 3

  You're embarrassing me. You're embarrassing me.

  00:32:01

  Yeah.

  00:32:02 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Well, I I love it like I I do. Me. I'm. I'm like, like I'm I'm, I've. I've sold myself now. Even if I haven't got. I saw the motorbike this year cause.

  00:32:09 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Was it? It was getting on for like 9 years old now and I was like, do you know what? I I kind of want a new intenerate or new or new adventure bike. That's that's the kind of the plan for this year is to get like a new 10 or a 700 or something that's a bit more. That's that's a bit cleaner, bit newer, less kind of things falling off it. And yeah, due for an upgrade. But I'm like, thinking even if I just.

  00:32:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Flew over with a, you know, so like a a bike cycled to the campsite. They hung out with you guys and joined in. Different groups can be kind of kind of like myself like.

  00:32:37 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  They're just ripping the cars jumping. There's always better seats. There's always space. There's the cars, mate, jump to the car. Yeah, it's like.

  00:32:45 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  There's plenty of space.

  00:32:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know that's the advantage over the cars with the bikes because we riding clean fatigue, all of our kit goes in a car that hey, can we put our kit in your car, you know, cause it'd be the adventure bikes that and you get the GS sliders and all the rest will just all the kit hanging off the bike. And I love it. I do.

  00:32:55 Speaker 3

  You just.

  00:33:05 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:33:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Not love it. I'm riding me.

  00:33:07 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The county monster it is not designed to have all.

  00:33:09 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That crap.

  00:33:11 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I will be.

  00:33:11 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Bare minimum, I want my protective gear.

  00:33:14 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And that is it. I don't want anything else on it. Get it off that bike. You know, if I had the choice, there'd be no number plates on it. There'll be no indicators.

  00:33:17 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:33:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Just rip it all off, but I can't so.

  00:33:23 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  I mean, that's kind of how I got into adventure bikes. I had a fire blade. Obviously the, you know, the white, the white Lightning, fire blade. Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, every every bloke has its own point and and was like I found myself actually more interested in the tour, the tours and their, you know, it's it's good to have that.

  00:33:39 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Kind of, you know, stability and that kind of power beneath you. But I was like, actually kind of like kind of like enjoying the tours more. So I was I was strapping stuff onto the back of it and doing, you know, using it as an excuse to go, I'll go visit so. And so I'll take the motorbike and then I'll put.

  00:33:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  It a you.

  00:33:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Know sleeping bag on the back of it and I was like, I do what I I think I probably do more adventures now. I might just just swap the, but I did swap the swap the five.

  00:33:59 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Like for the 10 or 8 which.

  00:34:00 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Sounds like sacrilege.

  00:34:04 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I get one I.

  00:34:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Would get one. For that purpose I.

  00:34:06 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Would get of that.

  00:34:07 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I I I love.

  00:34:08 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  The idea of getting out got travelling on whatever.

  00:34:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Whatever method that may be, and having kept camping getting next day and carrying on just being self-sufficient and covering new ground, new areas. For that reason I would get but it would be a second bike. The the monastery is not going right it.

  00:34:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Would be right.

  00:34:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  GSM An Africa twin. I got a friend who just bought an Africa twin. It's a lovely bike and and. And you're like an Africa twin maybe or something like that. With all the kit.

  00:34:36 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, I'd have to. I don't know. I'd have to do something to it, to make myself feel better. I've. I've got, like, a I've gotta think a thing against the venture bikes, particularly in the GS's.

  00:34:46 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Because they never.

  00:34:47 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know, bikers? They nod your head, you nod your head that you go past.

  00:34:50 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, GS and GS Fridays.

  00:34:53 Speaker 3

  And given meal and real you.

  00:34:56 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Need a way.

  00:34:57 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  To them, and they ignore you, blatantly seen you ignore you. Almost all of them. Almost all of them. There's a GS rider comes on the experts. Right and.

  00:35:00 Speaker 3

  My God first.

  00:35:06 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  'S name is. He's from down near Barnstaple. Awesome. Yeah, XSF dude. Right. And he's he's in his 60s. This guy's a machine.

  00:35:11 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:35:13 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  But I was sent. I sent him one last trip. I said what the gears with it with with you guys and I see. I was thinking you are the only one. You're the only one. They all ignore you. Like the better than you.

  00:35:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Like the better than you.

  00:35:24 Speaker 3

  Oh my God, that's have you not noticed this.

  00:35:27 Speaker 3

  I haven't made it like a.

  00:35:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Honestly, maybe then right, if you come, if you come go doesn't like trips in UK you see it, you will wave on out to them. They will not do it. But.

  00:35:33 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:35:37 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's crazy. It's crazy.

  00:35:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Well, well, one of the things actually I. Yeah, it's gonna say it's like, that's sacrilegious, isn't it? But one of the things I was gonna highlight actually was then like for me kind of like like twin came from watching like you and the Gregor and Charlie bought in the in the mid 2000s where they obviously the long way round like up and up and down.

  00:35:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's pretty.

  00:35:56 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Like was was any of that like an inspiration to?

  00:35:59 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Starting these sorts of things.

  00:36:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or no, I know. No, I know you're a fan. I mean, I watched that years ago. An incredible series. It was. I've always wanted the bike I wanted since I was a kid, and I didn't get one. Parents would give you one. I think it's more a question of money than anything else. Living a farm as well as like prime real estate for a motorbike. Like I know. Yeah.

  00:36:17 Speaker 3

  So dream lady.

  00:36:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

  00:36:22 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So I mean, I wouldn't say that particularly was but the it's the, it's adventure, Chris, I.

  00:36:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, I it it does not sit well with me, but I'm not gonna experience all the things that can be experienced in the world places before I die. It's not possible. I just wanna. I I love going home and going wow, this is different. It doesn't have to be incredibly different. Can be. It can be subtleties, you know, like went to Berlin last year.

  00:36:38 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, yeah, with.

  00:36:48 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Your dad, through his his birthday. You want the guy been years ago.

  00:36:51 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Went to Berlin.

  00:36:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And Berlin? It's a city, right? It's a European city.

  00:36:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And on the face that you think looks kind of the same as anywhere else, but when you spend a couple of days there, it's not this, this.

  00:37:01 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Subtle difference is.

  00:37:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  This is yes. I'm. I'm. I'm enjoying. This is from the culture of the people to the political situation to the the, the way the shops are to the Turkish district, to the, you know, it's just it's different.

  00:37:09

  Yeah.

  00:37:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That's that's what it is. I I I want where they can. I want to take the opportunity to meet your people, be new cultures and see new places. That is it. They know can be urban areas can be rural areas can be mountain regions. It can be desert, can be wherever. And ideally there are people.

  00:37:32 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  They have similar interest to me or similar goals or from a similar yeah, from similar circles that I may not know, but I'm likely to get on with because we're like, hey, **** it, you're not been here before. No. Well, should we go there? Yes, there. I've got time to just crack it out, you know? Yeah. And you're trusting that you ever get on with them as well.

  00:37:38 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:37:48 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's like a trust there. OK, it's it's it's. Yeah.

  00:37:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  No.

  00:37:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, I love. I got like a a very similar kind of outlook in that I think now now I'm now I'm a little bit older. I kind of appreciate you know, thing things more, you know like European cities and seeing new places when you're, you know when I'm when you're in your 20s. Well certainly I in my 20s I I kind of wanted to travel but.

  00:38:11 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  It's more a case of.

  00:38:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Travelling for the sake of it, rather than actually going somewhere new and kind of seeing and experiencing it and seeing, you know, comparing it to where I'd grown up and you know where I came from and stuff and and using it for context. You know in terms of.

  00:38:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Like oh, this is this is, you know.

  00:38:26 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Better, worse, different. You know from from things I've seen before. So I've I've kind of grown as a person for that stuff. So.

  00:38:34

  Yeah, yeah, mate.

  00:38:35 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  That's fascinating. Well, so I guess like you know, this question is how, how do people join it? And and you know, is there like a website, do people follow HR do you is there kind of like a a mailing list that you can sign up to for, to come and see you?

  00:38:53 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  No.

  00:38:53 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  On the on the.

  00:38:54 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  On the HR website, you'll get a pop up when you go to join it. It's like just to get e-mail updates and when you join that you'll get an e-mail every time a new podcast is release.

  00:39:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah. And then the only other stuff you'll get past on that is the occasional we talking once the quarter maybe emailed directly from me with information. It's normally on the.

  00:39:10 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Expert.

  00:39:11 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Apart from that, from the social media.

  00:39:11

  Yeah.

  00:39:14 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And.

  00:39:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  A great place to engage with the community, the the expeditioners. If you want to call them that and just uh.

  00:39:24 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  People with similar to ourselves are probably listeners of of tales of adventure is in the Discord server now. I don't know if you're if you're aware of, you must be aware of discord, but maybe, maybe not user it's, you know, it's sort.

  00:39:33 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:39:34 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:39:35 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Of a like a.

  00:39:37 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  A hybrid of social media.

  00:39:39 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And.

  00:39:40 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Private messaging, but with more sort of privacy. We got the HR discourse server now, which is really which is really good and the information goes in there like the arm tricks being discussed in there. Another trips that people are doing, they Chuck it in there to go go to invite anyone along to and HR will be the best way to be honest is followers on social media.

  00:39:58 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Or sign up or sign up with your website charliecharlie1.com.

  00:39:58 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Essentially, yeah.

  00:40:03 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, you should get along, mate. You know, even if you know, anyone anyone's welcome. So the the next one we're doing, which is in August that is capped. We've got I think it's 25 beds. Nap on coast. Yeah. Now we had 19 last year. I think we're gonna Max out but because we because it's capped it's bunker it's gonna be we're gonna do it via event point.

  00:40:12 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:40:20 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Probably fire only go in early Feb so it's just easy to manage that way, so I'll ping you the link mate when that comes out I'll probably share on social media.

  00:40:20 Speaker 3

  Yeah. Nice. Yeah.

  00:40:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  When those places are gone.

  00:40:28 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:40:28 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  John.

  00:40:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, I I guess is, is there options for to like bring a tent along and like just camp outside of the bank? Look, I'm I'm happy. I'm happy to be honest.

  00:40:38 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  There's, there's definitely a campsite nearby that one of the one of them have already spotted, and I think this hotel nearby, I don't think is the option to camp next to the coast, but to be honest, that's not a bad thing like it's it's.

  00:40:42

  Yeah.

  00:40:44 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:40:49 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:40:52 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You're the experts. It's nice to have you on space in the evening that you can go to whenever you want. You know 6:00 PM or 9:00 PM or 10:00 PM. You know, if you're not someone going off to the pub, I'll have a few pints. Then you gotta chill out and you can go chill out.

  00:40:56 Speaker 3

  Yeah, yeah.

  00:41:05 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah, I think it's fantastic. Yeah, because I think it's fantastic. I like I I love like these, kind of like community led. You know, that's one thing I definitely missed since my kind of mountaineering exploits came to an abrupt end, was not just the trying to climb a mountain, but doing something with other people where we've got like, a a similar goal or a similar. You're experiencing the same thing.

  00:41:05 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  So.

  00:41:26 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  At the same time, because it does, it does really bring you together more than just, you know, being in an.

  00:41:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Office with people.

  00:41:31 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Or or, you know, kind of going out to a pub with people when you're when you're kind of compressed into that sort of pressure. It's a bit like like basic training in the military, isn't it? You got you make your your lifelong friends in, you know, in training. And those those hard hard experiences.

  00:41:45 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And then you obviously if you come out the military after that, then you you've got to replace the military with something else. And I think this this does a really good job of doing that of kind of bringing forming those good.

  00:41:57 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Positive use, you know, great relationships.

  00:42:00 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Yeah, maybe for our mainland, you're.

  00:42:01 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  One, Chris should probably be the next. The year after next, probably. Maybe next year, probably year after next. Maybe we could do a, you know, we could meet halfway between the UK and Estonia. You bring your tails adventure crew. I mean, the HR crew and halfway in the other cut the.

  00:42:10 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yes.

  00:42:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Lights somewhere in the middle, you know, I mean well.

  00:42:17 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah.

  00:42:18 Speaker 3

  That'd be fantastic.

  00:42:19 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Because you can have your trip from wherever you are to the meat point and that's your sort of three full days. We can have our the other day but.

  00:42:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  In the middle.

  00:42:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It we got a night.

  00:42:27 Speaker 3

  Or two together. Yeah, yeah.

  00:42:30 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  That's almost like, yeah. So I was. I haven't even. I kind of wanted to reinvigorate the live tales adventure talks in London. Kind of this year. So that's kind of part of the reason for.

  00:42:40 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Get in touch as well.

  00:42:41 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  And I was like ohh.

  00:42:42 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You know, it was kind of cool to get.

  00:42:44 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You know, I'm. I'm thinking probably more like bike packing trips, you know, so like actual mountain bikes or gravel bikes. You know, you go out for like kind of five or six days. But that's that's kind of laziness, combining fitness with, you know, like a a mild holiday. And I think people wanna come and join me for it. Yeah, because it's it's like 5 or 6 days cycling all day.

  00:43:04 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  It's. It's a. Yeah. I've had a cup of tea, but.

  00:43:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Well, I I guess I'm gonna last question before I should let you get get on and get back to work and stuff. Is there any advice for other people who want to start their own communities say they're they're a little bit nervous about kind of putting themselves out there or they want they don't know what? What brings people together. They've got like any like Nuggets of wisdom that you say to them like?

  00:43:29 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Just.

  00:43:30 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it.

  00:43:31 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Just.

  00:43:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  I think really you know, you mentioned earlier about the the HR experts sort of growing into an expected areas and you know having the kids and stuff like that. I think the goal the you know the goal is to define the quality you want as as opposed to the quality of the sites, you know when in the Community you wanna build, what is it you want, is it?

  00:43:51 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yes.

  00:43:53 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Is it an online community where you want positive conversation about XYZ topic or topics or areas or is it you know something physical in in person? Is it tripping oriented? You know what is it oriented and then focus on what college can to people who you want to get along to it.

  00:44:09 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  But don't hold yourself to account if you don't.

  00:44:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Get.

  00:44:12 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  A certain number of people on each trip or each event. Each time you know, like it could, it could be like a, you know, like a A, you know, a a speaker event. Every so often, you know, you're not gonna get 100 people. You're not gonna get the wall isn't gonna turn.

  00:44:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Up to the.

  00:44:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  1st event. But if you get a few.

  00:44:29 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  People turn up to the first event, like you said, whatever that nature event, maybe a few people turn up and they find it a positive experience. You can bet your bottom dollar that the next event there will be more and that is the only target is have more than what you started.

  00:44:42 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And when you start, you've got zero, you've got you gotta get first event or community event, whatever it is, trip. It can't be a failure. I mean just build. Yeah, build on the previous. Don't work towards trying to be, you know a 10X thing or or a a Charlie Brown and and you know like a type true. You know you've got TV cameras.

  00:44:52

  On.

  00:45:02 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know that cause it's not gonna happen. Just aim to build on more than what it was the time.

  00:45:07 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Well.

  00:45:08 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yeah. Nice man. That's that's such. That's such like, kind of why he's, you know, wise words cause it's that that I guess perfectionism, you know, is is hoping that the first event to be a sell out or the first you know expedition you do is to be you know a massive group of people as like to say as long as it's better than the last one because it's a.

  00:45:27 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  It's it's. I think that's the problem with the state energy people do with everything. You know, they, they, they, they.

  00:45:28

  Great.

  00:45:32 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Start going to the.

  00:45:33 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Gym or or they start on a certain diet or whatever, because they they want to be the thing they saw on Instagram or the OR on YouTube or whatever. And they go. I wanna be a bodybuilder.

  00:45:43 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Right. And so and I said and they're all suddenly have become a body builder in the first three months and then finding it hard was the actual target for me. That's why I would like to be the aspiration, my aim over the next month is to be have more muscle, less fat than I did on the last measurement the month before. And you know you you set yourself small goal smart.

  00:46:03 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  And it's specific, measurable, achievable, realistic and time bound. Like set something easy but to pick them off with the aspiration being I wanna get. I wanna get to be like a Schwarzenegger. Yeah. I mean, it starts off with little steps. This is it. Well, some of the similar events, some of these trips, you know, they they started off with the first. Well, Alan was Alan was 7-8 people.

  00:46:04 Speaker 3

  Yet.

  00:46:16 Speaker 3

  Yeah.

  00:46:23 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You know an hour what? 1919 at Peak peak on the last one. You know, that's just organic growth. There's no advertising. Like, that's what it's about. You have a good time. And if you wanna come.

  00:46:34 Speaker 3

  It's yeah.

  00:46:35 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  You come and this.

  00:46:36 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Is what it is. Yeah, man, I I love that such a such a good kind of narrative. And. And like, you know, vibes for for something like this.

  00:46:43 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Is it's. Yeah. I I I I believe in the power of like bringing people together, adventure shared experiences. Since you know, since it going through in the military.

  00:46:52 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  You know like.

  00:46:53 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Needs to be part of keeping me sane. You.

  00:46:54 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Know kind of afterwards so.

  00:46:55 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Well, look at how have I hate this? Look at House of I hate this. You know the the incremental growth that's had when that started off, hmm, you probably had no clients or you had some that you do just like if anyway had no clients and no look at where it is now you know it's it's growth, you don't get success immediately you have to you have to work towards it. However social media would have you think.

  00:47:15 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Otherwise, these days it's it's, yeah, it's just not the case. Not the case, so.

  00:47:17 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Yes. Yeah, make such such.

  00:47:22 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Great wise words to end on so.

  00:47:24 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  Let me let me leave you to to get back to your day and and thank you again.

  00:47:26 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Ohh thanks again thanks. I'll get back to my exciting day jobs.

  00:47:27 Speaker 3

  For joining me, yes, that's awesome. See you soon.

  00:47:32 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  See you soon. Thanks for the invite.

  00:47:34 Hugh Keir, founder of H-Hour podcast

  Chris, keep you. What you doing?

  00:47:37 Chris Shirley, Website Developer, Digital Marketing Specialist and Brand Designer at Haus of Hiatus, website and brand design studio

  It was really great chatting to Hugh about the power of group expeditions. If you're interested in finding out more, check out the shows below and I'll see you next time.

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